Monday, November 8, 2010

DREAM Act Destined for Passage?

The DREAM Act destined for passage? As part of a defense spending bill which was turned down in the Senate, legislators tried to pass the Dream Act. This would bring a method for illegal immigrant students and military officials to become US Citizens once and for all.

The DREAM act would allow citizenship to children of illegal immigrants who go to college or serve in the military. This is supposedly legislation that would fix an injustice, as those who qualify for the DREAM act were not illegal immigrants by choice.

These include students who have been in the US for more than 5 years. They can complete 2 years of college or 2 years of military service to become citizens.

The whole concept of the Dream Act is controversial. Anything that deals with immigration brings forth a lot of dialogue between the parties in the government.

Do you think that the DREAM act is a good idea, or do you think it will cause more problems for the US?

24 comments:

  1. Good for everyone

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  2. Dream Act is a passage for well deserving individuals who are hard working students, ready to fight for this country, contribute to the nation and must be criminal record free to even qualify for It. There will be no financial aid provided for those who will benefit from this, thus they will have to pay for college from their own pockets and many will enlist in military. Military has stated many times they are forced to enlist people who don't qualify because there are not enough people. This will solves that problem as well. Millions will enlist in Military without a second thought. The bill would generate revenues, just imagine every student would need an I.D/SOCIAL SECURITY. they will have to pay fees to acquire them. That alone will bring in so much money.
    Lastly those who will qualify for it will have to wait 6 years before applying for permanent residency and If within that period any sort of criminal activity occurs, they will be deported. we are ensuring a better future for everyone as a whole. bright students, good contributers to the society, and finally a chance to millions who never had one. Dream Act is a must for this country. We need this.

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  3. Consistent with American ideals to not punish those that did not chose to volitionally go around immigration law.

    From an economic standpoint, the immigrants that qualify are only those that have made a military or educational commitment. United States society has invested culture and educational training on these students, why waster their talent and/or send that investment to another country?

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  4. I agree with you Ismail, but the fact is that as long as there is a shred of hatred, it will speak out louder than any pro-immigrant group. We can still continue to fight for our ideals...let's hope we do a good job of defending true freedom.

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  5. The Dream Act would be good for the economy in the short and long term, not to mention that it wouls benefit the US military!

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  6. we r all pray to pass the dream act in 2010

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  7. The United States has invested a lot of money educating this kids, allowing them to go to college and giving them an oportunity to get their papers will benefit the United States because this kids will give back to the economy by paying taxes.

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  8. Really Fair bill, we have everything to gain and nothing to lose. These kids are innocent as well. It all seems fine to me

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  9. The Dream Act should be passed. These young children who were brought here by their parents had no say in staying or leaving this country. They're being punished by their parents choices. They cant go to schools they wish to attend, they cant work, they cant drive, they cant open up bank accounts. Do they deserve all this? NO! I'm all for this dream act to pass this year. PLEASE PUSH OUR SENATORS TO BRING THIS ON THE FLOOR AGAIN. MAY ALL OUR PRAYERS COME TRUE AND THIS LAW BE PASSED THIS TIME AROUND.

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  10. ahh just pass it. too many supoort it besides its not that bad

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  11. It benefits those who have worked hard and stayed out of trouble. It is definitely a good idea.. I support the DREAM!!

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  12. Pass the Dream ACT!

    and this is coming from a Republican.

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  13. pass it,these are children's lives....they are victims of their parents actions. the bill would help america in general.these kids are more motivated to succeed and become helpful citizens

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  14. The Dream Act is a bad idea. While I sympathize with children who were brought to this country with no say in the matter, I believe that to give them citizenship would be to reward illegal behavior and encourage more of it. I also disagree with the fact that the recipients of the Dream Act would eventually be able to sponsor their relatives (the same relatives who brought them to the country illegally) for citizenship and that's why it is referred to as a back door amnesty.

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  15. to the person above me. If you read the bill I am sure all the information you wrote down is wrong.
    Recipients will not be able to sponsor their parents. It will be 6 years before they could even qualify for permanent residency.
    2nd part. It's not citizenship. It is a pathway to earn citizenship and it will be around 10 years before they can apply for citizenship. the only thing we will be doing is granting them rights every American have so they can peruse their education and ultimately give back to the country. this is not a back door amnesty, this is putting our tax payer money invested children to work.

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  16. To the person above me, I did read the bill and nothing I wrote is incorrect. You may disagree with me that the Dream Act rewards illegal behavior and would encourage more of it but it is a fact that they would one day be able to petition to sponsor their relatives. I did not say they could do this right away, I said eventually one day they would be able to. It is also my opinion that this is a back door amnesty the same as it is your opinion that it is not. Also, the illegal aliens who apply for the Dream Act would immediately move to the front of the line, ahead of the millions of people who are in line to come to the USA legally. This is not fair to those people who have been waiting and trying to do things the right way.

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  17. Completely respect your point of view but here is my counter attack. people who are in line are those who consciously applied to become citizens. These are people who had an option to choose in staying *getting in line* or go back home. The children however, we're talking at an age where they had no say and have been here their whole life. How is it their fault that they now speak English only, know America as their only home and practically have gone to the same school our children have, ate the same food, played football together and 18 years later when it came time to get higher education *college/university* or join military, they are denied the rights because they lack social securities/legal documents that classifies them to be American citizen. I have heard your argument tons of times before and not to say I disagree but there is no correlation between the one.
    one 1 hand we have children who had no say in coming to the states vs. people well in their conscious state of mind choose to be become a part of this country and get in line.

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  18. DREAM Act is actually a sensible bill that I support. Many may not know that most illegals who will benefit from this had either graduated high school, or with proper degrees in universities. If they were deported, their country will benefit the American education that we paid with our taxes. However, if they were given a chance to be legalize, they will then be required to pay taxes and use their education in this country where it belongs, so why not just let them? It's a win-win in along run. It just makes sense to me.

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  19. Pass the DREAM Act.

    Let's call our local senators to to support it and make it happen!!!

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  20. Why those people should be above the law? They are here illegally and should be deported.

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  21. these people are kids! dont forget that

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  22. that's a lie you call 35yo people kids and how do we prove you did not just jump the border all someone has to do is apply and then they can never be deported the government does not have the man power to check all the fraud 25 americans are killed everyday by ileagle invaders 550women are raped every day by ileagle invaders 6children are molested everyday by guess who ileagle invaders what if you were having a party in your yard a fenced in yard and all your family was there kids and all then you see 100 people in the distance heading for your yard and then they start jumping the fence now you learn 10of them are murders 10 of them are rapists 10 of them are id stealer's 10 of them are drug dealers 5 of them are gang members but then 4 of them say oh dont worry we just came here to work and go to your college so would you welcome them or would you want to keep them all the hell out of your house I thought so so now lets stop this silly talk about oh I am a good one if you are here illegally you are a criminal not a good one

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  23. IMO, the mood of the counry is too sour, to pass the dream act. The dreams of many Americans have been destroyed by the loss of a job, home or BOTH.

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  24. the dream act allows conditional residence if kids have no criminal record, they have been here continously for 5yrs, and go to school/serve in the military. After the 6yr conditional residence, the kids must apply to remove the condition, where the govt would determine whether they are eligible for permanent residence. (i.e. no criminal record, they finished school/served in the military/no dishonorable discharge.) IF they pass those requirements, then they gain legal residency. after another 5yrs of legal residency, they can apply for US citizenship. the process of applying/becoming a citizen won't take less than 2 yrs. therefore, if we add up all those years, it will be 13yrs from now (assuming the bill passes now) that these students would be able to sponsor any of their relatives.
    once they are eligible to sponsor a relative, depending on who that relative is, the application must be processed (which usually takes up to a year, depending on how many people are applying). then that family member will have to apply for a visa (yes it's a separate application). that usually takes 6mos or so. so now, almost 14yrs have passed since that child/beneficiary of the dream act may sponsor a relative to come back. furthermore, if that relative ever entered the country illegally (as most of these children's parents have), they are subject to a 10yr bar (which MUST be completed outside the US). Therefore, it will be 24yrs before these kid's parents are eligible to come back to the US. so, a child who is now 18, will have a parent who is (just for argument's sake) no younger than 38 (assuming that parent was 18 when they had the child.) so, the illegal parent would be eligible to return to this country when they are 63yrs old (assuming they will even be granted a visa- which is up to the consular officer in their country of origin.)
    Where is this whole "backdoor amnesty" argument coming from? Above, I have clearly laid out the law as it stands today, if the DREAM Act were passed. there are many other things that are required of aliens coming in to this country, and we make it very difficult to get a visa. if the sponsor can't prove that they make enough $$ to pay to support their relative, they are inadmissible b/c they may become a "public charge". (ie. not eligible for a visa). If they have any criminal record (especially involving drugs), they are inadmissible. there are many hurdles to overcome. anyone who thinks this issue is black and white has not had experience w/immigration law. anyone who thinks it's easy to sponsor ANY relative (even a spouse), clearly has not had any experience w/immigration law.
    opinions can be wrong- especially if they are based on lack of knowledge and not completely understanding the issue.

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