Monday, August 9, 2010

Tier 5, 99er Update: Does Another Unemployment Extension Bill Discourage Job Searching?

Tier 5 and 99ers have been in the news. The unemployment extension bill recently introduced by Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) provides another 20 weeks of unemployment benefits for states with unemployment rates 7.5% or greater.  There are many questions looming after this, such as does another unemployment extension actually discourage job searchers?

A Harvard economist named Jeff Miron believes just that. He thinks that claims that the extensions stimulate the economy are ridiculous, saying “That money came from the taxpayers, so others in the economy have less money to spend now or in the future.” He goes on to say that the extensions should be stressed because of compassion, not because of any impact that they may or may not have on the economy.

This will make the political fight for a Tier 5 extension all the more difficult. We already know from experience from the original unemployment extension that gaining GOP support will be challenging, given resistance to further deficit spending. Experts claiming that the extension will do little to benefit the economy will negate some of the strongest arguments of the bill’s supporters.

Still, the pleadings for a Tier 5 extension continue. The long term unemployed are fighting for their lives. The question is this: should we throw them a rope or leave them behind?


42 comments:

  1. THROW THEM A ROPE OR THE GOP GOES DOWN IN NOVEMBER! We will be voting in November and it WILL effect the seat open. How can they say that people paying out from their unemployment checks to live doesnt help? Take this, either pass the S3706 or welfare will balloon so high they wont be able to service us all!

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  2. Apparently, this Harvard professor & the GOP fail to comprehend the simple issue of supply & demand: there are not enough jobs to cover the MILLIONS of Unemployed workers. There's not enough supply of jobs to meet the demands of the people. I have 2 children to support, and we have no money basic living needs like soap, toilet paper, toothpaste. So we live like peasants and have to beg people for help w/these "trivial" necesssties. Even if I were lucky enough to get a call for even 1 interview, I have no money to put gas in my car to even get there. The gov't has opened up a totally new way of poverty. And they DON'T CARE! Its horrible living like this, for my children especially for my girls. Why don't these Politicians go out in the streets and see what this lifestyle, if you can call it that, is really like!

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  3. Apparently the man from Harvard has never been unemployed during a recession. for him to make such a statement without walking in our shoes is unappreciated.

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  4. This guy from "HARVARD" is a jerk and doesn't have a clue about the real world!!!

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  5. Hes from Harvard that should explain it all!

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  6. A Harvard economist named Jeff Miron another asshole? throw him over a cliff with a rope a hundred feet over his head,prob payed to say that crap from his government crooks,he sounds like an ass kisser to me,so here kiss my ass

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  7. I am a 58 year old man who cannot and has not been able to find employment ...too young to retire and apparently too old to get hired...if not for the economy then throw the rope out for compassion...perhaps another 20 weeks will give enough time to find a job or let me work for the unemployment benefits until then ...

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  8. The Wall Street Journal is currently printing articles talking about how the current 99 weeks is too much. They say jobless benefits make people reluctant to apply. Big business is against the tier 5 extension and are propagating lies which will just lead to more struggling and homeless Americans.

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  9. And they wonder why people become suicidal. This trully is the beginning of the end of the bible and of the world (Revalations) has greatly fallen up us all. Man no longer seems to care about mankind anymore except for money(root of all evil). I am saying throw out the rope. People need help and it's starting to make the prophecy become a reality. Where are people's heart and compassion? In there bank accounts that's where to those that fit the discription of not wanting to help their fellow americans. If it were up to I, I'd glady throw out the rope and then some, because I too am a victim of this crazy scam the government came up with to short change the less wealthy. As they say, have said and will remain (The rich gets rich off the poor) that's why they are so afraid of wanting to give back whats rightfully do to the less fortunate. We didn't ask to be jobless so come up with the truth as to why congress is so against extending the tier5 for all 99ers including the areas of percentages less than 7.5%. We all need help.

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  10. I have been unemployed for over two years now. the good news is, that over the last two to three weeks I have had 4 interviews. Bad news is, no job offer. I am 44 years old and have the experience some employers are looking for. Why am I not being hired? Age? Length of unemployment? Why would they say that adding a Tier 5 would discourage 99ers from looking for work when we already are and have been? Makes no sense to me.

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  11. We help everyone around the world. We need to help us the unemployed. I myself am on on the internet job boards 7 days a week, at least 5 hours a day. I have a stack of places where I have applied and the stack is now approaching 3 feet high. There are so few jobs and too many of us applying for the few positions. Tell congress and the Senate, I'll do there job and they can walk in my unemployed shoes!! Tell them to stop taking vacation when the country is screaming for help! Stop sending billions of dollars overseas to countries who don't want us there anyway. And when we finally pull out they will go back to exactly the same life stile. We need help NOW!!! We the unemployed in this country are dieing!! HELP NOW!!!!

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  12. I believe deep-down people realize the severity of the situation with the unemployment rate right now in america.regardless of these republican-sponsored so-called analysts,numbers don't lie.I believe they will take care of us with eventual passage...the hardest battle is won..they fought hard to get the extension through...for everyone...this is the back end of that extension...in my mind it's already done.....

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  13. I'm like this if they can have enough money to produce and broadcast million dollar game shows, reality t.v. shows such as the bachelor, then why don't they have enough money to help the jobless such as myself? I have been out of work for 2yrs now as well only do to a natural disaster in my area. Hurricane Ike. I lost my job, no money for child care, no money to pay rent, no money to hardly buy toilet paper to wipe our backsides. However, they have money to pay celebrities a fortune, money is constantly being wasted by the texas state lottery, which is supposed to benefit the education department(failed), this is such a sad world we live in of today. I'm not worried anymore because I know man can rule here on earth for only a short period of time, but to rule after is highly unlikely. So people want to shape other peoples lives with currency made out of paper from trees yeah, well you can't still our joy because my reward is in heaven not here. The devil sure is busy. Yes I'm all for them throwing out the rope because in order to make it in this life we need to use paper as currency to survive. Lord in Heaven please look down upon the heartless, the greedy and the wicked to help them realize what they are doing to other human beings is not the solution to getting to heaven. I pray for us all.

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  14. Due to the economy my family was forced to close our doors after 65 years in business. Two weeks later,my husband after 27 years with GM was let go. We have always paid our taxes,and followed all the rules. We both are in our 50s and cant find work. We have never recieved unemployment before,and now we need help. People who need the tier5,are out everyday looking for a job Where are they?????

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  15. A Harvard economist named Jeff Miron believes just that. He thinks that claims that the extensions stimulate the economy are ridiculous, saying “That money came from the taxpayers, so others in the economy have less money to spend now or in the future.” EXCUSE ME!!! That money came from our hard earned paychecks and is being used by the government for other purposes instead of giving it back to us to help support our families.

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  16. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a Robin Hood of today, but doing it the right way?

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  17. kill all who won't help us until they get the picture

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  18. If anything, we are certain is that vote in elections in November, and then we will see those who remain in the Senate. But our representative appears our enemy all projects for the poor veneficial block it, but also we will block many of those senators with our votes. keep sending your letters to various senators, that most voters are we ..

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  19. Jeff Miron is what we call a college idiot! Someone who has paid for education but doesn't have any. The american people have suffered for everything that the government has produced, we are their experimental monkies! When this country goes to shit who's at fault, well of course the silver spoon sucking politicians who look down out their fancy offices and ask each other, "I wonder what the poor people are eating"! So if an extension on unemployment is what the people need by all means give it to them. These people who are out of work are AMERICAN TAXPAYERS or were, before they lost their jobs! What ever happened to the good ole saying, "Brother can you lend a dime". Oh, I remember that was popular song during the Great Depression in 1933!! Where our country is heading for. Politicians, Get off your high horse and start helping the people who need it. And stop using our monies to your goodtimes. Step up to the plate or step in line, cause KARMA is waiting.

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  20. Ok there is the list pass it on to everyone you know and lets get these Morons out of office

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  21. I say lets protest, collectively. We should choose a date in the near future, spread the word, (with the help of the media), and get out and voice our need for a tier 5 for the world to hear. If people know the date they will show up all across the nation. I do believe that! There is too much suffering to ignore an opportunity to protest. People just need to know when. (Where isn't hard;in the streets,parks, the steps of the capitals.) If anyone can get the media to listen, set a date. Once broadcasted the information will spread like wild fire via the internet, phone, and word of mouth.Let's do this thing!

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  22. Probably best to euthanize everyone over 50. That is what is coming to. 20% plus unemployment and growing everyday. 100 plus applicants for every job. At least if we can get one of those high paying jobs ($10-$13 per hour) we can get a high quality/capacity tent so all our unemployed relatives can move in.

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  23. You are fighting for more free goverment money when there are people posting on Progress Illinois that they can ( take there minnum wage paying,not bennifits part time slave jobs and SHOVE them) Yet this person is supasta be looking for a job becaue they are a 99er and out of benifits! Well if I had NO money and ran out of unemployment then I sure as hell would TAKE that part time, low wage, no bennifits JOB....I would not sit and bitch for more FREE handouts.

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  24. Still, the pleadings for a Tier 5 extension continue. The long term unemployed are fighting for their lives. The question is this: should we throw them a rope or leave them behind?
    To even ask such a question is stupid. By the way Mr genius, we the unemployed are tax payers even on unemployment. Why don't u use that pea brain of your and figure out how one can get a job where there are no jobs, and stop making it look as if the unemployed, many who have work 20-60 years are looking for a free ride. You're an ass and just goes to show everyone there are even idiots at Harvard.

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  25. Thats BENEFITS you moron.

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  26. I argree karma is a m-f...er. Has any of these politicians ever heard of retirement(i.e. greedy children, grandchildren, nursing home, inheritance etc..) They fell to realize that what they show towards their offspring only makes it worse on themselves. If they don't care about others than what makes them thing when they children become a politician if so be it, then they are still good to go. Most people of higher authority end up being yesterdays washed news. They will one day get a taste of what it's like to be on the side with us and realize omg what have I done. As far as other people that are not of higher ups that's constantly trying to put the jobless down wonder what kind of financial situation your in, because if you're better off than the rest of us why even post? Must be nice to be 1st citizen to make fun of the less fortunate. Someone was brought up with any hometraining and manners nor respect and morals.

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  27. Correction on last statement. Must be nice to be a 1st class citizen to be able to make fun of the less fortunate. Shows you weren't rasided with any morals, manners, hometraining and any respect, because is you did you wouldn't be such a ding-a-ling about something that doesn't pertain to you. I had other corrections to make to my earlier post but you all pretty much get the idea of where I'm coming from and what I meant. Stay blessed.

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  28. accepting applications for a oceans 11 team fuk the gov time to take our money

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  29. 99er's...we cannot give up....we help and they know it..Come visit us at...

    www.teir5tostayalive.blogspot.com

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  30. the gop dont care about the poor people loosing there homes and cars

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  31. I believe it is both the Democrats and the Republicans that are causing this. The Republicans do not want a bigger deficit and the Democrats are looking for political stability by dragging this on to make the Republicans look bad. I have been out of work here in Michigan for over a year and a half and I am also the age of 50 which seems to be a problem even though I have years of experience and college. I have been on at least 15 interviews in the year and a half and don't know what else it could be besides my age for not being hired. Each place told me they had over 200 resumes for the one job. My husband also had a heart attack in June and we have no health insurance so now we have that added expense to deal with on top of me being unemployed I don't know how long it will be before we loose everything we worked for our whole lives. Please we need help.

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  32. Do you honestly think people are living in the lap of luxury on $300 a week. Please. No one wants to be on that for long if they can help it.

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  33. Jeff Miron is Jeff Moron. No wonder higher education in this country is behind other nations.

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  34. Come November it will be time to pay for this crap. We need the tier 5 now not in September or October because many of us can't hold on that long. I hope all of these politicians enjoy their vacation because after November they will have an extended one. Oh and the guy from Harvard, I guess you know what you can do with it.

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  35. Wouldnt be suprised if this is going to the be the newest version of population control. Maybe they want all of us to go over the edge and commit suicide or murder but we just got to be strong i guess, i mean i had an interview today and was told the usual" ill call you on monday" and like the past 9 months no call back. I even went as far as emailing the president after emailing my senator and governor for their vote on the tier 5 extension. Hopefully the harvard professor will keep his job itll be one less person unemployed

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  36. How is this bill going to be paid for?

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  37. I have been unemployed for 3 yrs come October & the extensions helped & money was spent ion the economy; we get money so does local businesses. The only way to a job is to know someone or word of mouth as the jobs on line,etc are a joke; a come on as when u contact the Employment agencies it's like going for that car at $999 but it was JUST SOLD We need new government & we need it NOW

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  38. You ask how is this bill going to be paid for, well the same way they tend to find money to pay for everything else. Scam the less fortunate as though it was a charity event like help feeding third world countries, but actually stick the money into their bank accounts that's how. lol Seriously there is unused money such as stimulus funding that could be used for a tier 5 extension.

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  39. I created a wikipage entry for 99ers, if any wiki pros would like to add to or improve it using reliable sources and information, so historically this time in history is documented and remembered.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99ers

    When I first submitted it, another person in a senior role with wikipedia messaged me asking if it was widespread enough of a term and said he would remove it if there were no sources on the term being used. So I went in and added multiple sources from ABC News to the Washington Post on the term being used. Apparently some people are completely unaware of what's going on in our world and haven't even heard about the 99ers. They didn't even know 1.4 million American families and growing are going through this.

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  40. There was a recently released video of a woman going off at a McDonalds over them not selling her chicken nuggets because it was still breakfast time. She was later reported to have been drunk at the time. The thing is you CANNOT get drunk in the morning like that if you have a job. Because if you show up to work that drunk, they will smell it on you and you'll get fired. She is obviously unemployed and possibly a 99er. She's from Ohio where the unemployment rate is 10%+. What do you all think?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/10/mcnugget-fight-mcdonalds_n_677415.html

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  41. I have also been out of work for 13 months...and have sent out over 300 resumes and have been on 10 interviews. I have a graduate degree and have been working in my field for over 20 years...I am also 51 years old...Makes me wonder if i am be discriminated against because of my age!each and every job that I have applied for I fit the job profile to the "T"...Mr. Harvard can you explain that? Another American Revolution appears looming on the horizon…Cause and Affect people...Cause and Affect!

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