Thursday, November 25, 2010

Immigration: Dream Act Continues Discussion During 2010 Lame Duck

The Dream Act is one of the most talked about measures during the lame duck session of Congress. The Dream Act would provide a 6 year conditional path to citizenship for those illegal immigrants who were brought to the US by their parents before they were 16 years of age.  In order to qualify, an illegal immigrant will have to either obtain a college degree or serve two years in the military.

The basic premise is that the move would help fix a social injustice.  The people who qualify for the amnesty are those who did not choose to be illegal immigrants.  In essence, as illegal immigrants these are people without a country.  All their lifelong friends are from the US, and they know no body - and perhaps don't even speak the language - of their motherland.  In addition, by adding people with degrees to the country, it will help us advance.

On the other hand, some say that this measure might cause more harm than good.  If you are a parent, ask yourself this: would you go to a country illegally if you thought your child would get a chance for a better life? I doubt there are any parents out there who would say no. Parents will do anything for their young.

So is the Dream Act going to pass - and is it necessary for our country? Weigh in and debate with us in our comment section.

46 comments:

  1. I think the case is clear that the DREAM Act is an important piece of legislation that is good for the economy, good for national security, and good for our society. We shouldn't hold youth hostage as we struggle to figure out the best way to update immigration laws to meet the challenges we failed to address in 1986. The DREAM Act is the right thing to do because many of these youth have already completed college and are just waiting to give back -- they are Americans in all ways except paper.

    Pass the DREAM Act.

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  2. I believe the Dream Act is exactly what this country needs. As a conservative republican I can honestly say that the people who benefit by this are going to contribute to contribute to this country in a positive way.

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  4. The DREAM Act doesn't use federal taxpayer dollars. The act would allow states to give financial aid to undocumented students and also allow those students to get federal student loans and work study grants. It wouldn't give those students access to federal education grants, like Pell Grants. I support the Dream Act, there is just so much racism out there.

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  5. NO AMNESTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The Dream act opens doors for chain migration for illegal aliens up to the age of 35 years of age.
    It rewards the parents of these children and also gives incentive for future illegal border crossing.
    It will not happen.

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  6. I don't know if you ever read or anything, but how is it going to "open doors for chain migration" if the only people that are going to be eligible are those that were in the country at least 5 years BEFORE THE ENACTMENT OF THE ACT. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK STUPID SKULLS. Stupid conservative lame-brains.

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  7. The DREAM act makes sense. These kids have stayed out of trouble and excelled in school. It was not their choice to cross the border but it was their choice to study and continue their education. It would be silly to not make good use of their talents. Pass the DREAM act!

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  8. Contrary to the author's opinion, Illegal aliens do have citizenship and a country. It is the one they were born in. Their parents have an obligation to introduce them to their relatives and culture of home. When American citizens are suffering from unemployment and depressed wages, it is wrong to inflict further punishment on them by increasing competition by this amnesty. American students should not be punished by losing college seats and limited funding to illegal aliens.

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  9. Obviously, you are not very well educated on the subject. Just a hater throwing names.
    see below "stupid" :
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    Under current federal law, U.S. citizens have the right to immigrate their "immediate relatives" to the U.S. without regard to numerical caps. Similarly, lawful permanent residents can immigrate their spouses and children to the U.S. as long as they retain their status. This means illegal aliens who receive amnesty under the DREAM Act will have the right to immigrate their family members-including the parents who sent for or brought them to the U.S. illegally in the first place-in unlimited numbers as soon as they become U.S. citizens (6 to 8 years after enactment) and are 21 years of age.

    Additionally, amnestied aliens who become U.S. citizens will be able to petition for their adult siblings living abroad to immigrate to the U.S., further incentivizing chain migration and potentially illegal entry into the United States (for those who don't want to wait for the petition process overseas). When an adult brother or sister receives a green card, the family (spouse and children) of the adult sibling receive green cards as well. [Sessions Memo via Politico, 11/22/10]

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  10. A previous post:
    "I don't know if you ever read or anything, but how is it going to "open doors for chain migration" if the only people that are going to be eligible are those that were in the country at least 5 years BEFORE THE ENACTMENT OF THE ACT. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK STUPID SKULLS. Stupid conservative lame-brains."
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    This is the type person that obviously has no concern for the rules of right and wrong and what is best for this nation right now.
    This must be an anchor baby, or someone directly affiliated with one.
    Quick to call names gives it away.

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  11. I hope the Dream Act does pass !!!

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  12. people lets chill. If this law passes, which it may not. The only people benefiting will be the students who have graduated and are in good moral standing. So almost no one. Yea, sadly the stereotypes are backed up by the statistics. Only 5% of illegal immigrants who attend a public school graduate. From that 5% about 60% develop a serious criminal record. We are talking about a rough 2% of the 1 million eligible candidates. What would that be? 20,000 students? Now there is the conditions of serving the military or attending college. I don't know how many of you really know the difference between a federal grant, and a loan. They will not receive grants. As in "you have to pay it back with interests" so loans ha ha. Anyways. The stories about straight A students, well thats isn't accurate either. from the 2% that made it, well lets just say they barely made it.

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  13. No one is being punished with the DREAM act. What a ridiculous statement to make. There will always be a spot in a university for those who want one. We have so many financial aid options and not to mention the abiliity to legally work. These kids have nothing! We want and need educated people that will BENEFIT the country. All I see is greed and fear. We have so many opportunities so its time to quit complaining and start sharing with those that can help our country grow.

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  14. same author
    SO if they barely made they aren't really going to be getting all these amazing scholarships. When it comes to sits being taken away from U.S. students. Um, false. Universities across America have a set number of sits exclusively for American native students, and then for diverse students, meaning foreign or of a diverse ethnic group. As many of you know they want a certain %
    filled with diverse students, but most of the time many sits go unclaimed. So, no one will lose a sit. Information is power people. I discriminate ignorance. Anyways, now about the military. I say woohoo for anyone who will die for me. end of discussion. What is wrong with that? are we really that ignorant as to pass free soldiers that aren't us. hmm possibly.
    to end this: Dream act=hardly a joke for an amnesty because of all the barriers. Maybe 10,000 students will benefit nation wide. thats a joke really. If it passes we at least get 5,000 soldiers from the 10,000 who got benefited. I say we have freaked out over literally nothing.

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  15. It will not pass.

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  16. It should be passed!!!! These students should be allowed to become legal

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  17. @ previous comment 4:59 p.m.
    you really think that illegal immigrants just bring all kinds of badness and that they dont even try to get an education huh? I know many people who are very intelligent and are in this situation. I do not believe that so many undocumented graduates end up doing crimes. And about the straight A students "barely making it", well how would you know they barely made it? they succeeded better than all those dropouts and potheads that were born in this country, and should be recognized for their success.

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  18. I can't believe medical marijuana can pass but something like the DREAM act can't. Seriously? We're legalizing drugs and not students that can contribute to the country? Embarrassing. Soon there will be more people getting access to marijuana for ridiculous reasons than smart kids getting the education they've earned. Two thumbs up for the DREAM act!

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  19. Although the Dream Act is a good peice of legislation,The root causes of the broken immigration system goes back to Republican control of Congress During critical years.The Republican congress even refused to Update Section 249 of the INA , now set at January 1,1972.There has never been a 38 year gap between the current year and the "Registry Date". Updating Section 249 like it has been done 6 times before in The Past makes much more sense than the Dream Act.

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  20. Dream act is good but they should put a cap on their parents. The Dreamers will not be able to claim their parents period.
    THEY SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE A PROVISION TO REGISTER SKILLED PROFESSIONALS WHO CAME TO STUDY , OVERSTAYED AND ARE NOW ILLEGAL. These should be registered right away.Not necessarily as citizens but they should be allowed to stay. Because if we let them go back to India, China,Japan, Europe, Africa or wherever they came from, they will go and give U.S competition.

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  21. inocent kids can not punished for their parents mistake .let them have their dream come true

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  22. Tell the truth about the DREAM ACT?

    AMERICAN TAXPAYERS MUST READ THE FULL TEXT OF S 3827, BEFORE THEY CONDEMN THOSE AGAINST THE LAW. THIS DREAM ACT MUTANT LAW HAS MANY HEADS, THAT WILL HAVE BAD IMPLICATIONS ON OUR FUTURE. IT MUST BE TABLED AND THEN REVISED WITH COMMON SENSE? THIS IS ANOTHER EXPENSIVE PARTY FAVOR FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS AND WHOLE FAMILIES THAT WILL JOIN THEM LATER? AS FOR STUDENTS GOING ON HUNGER STRIKE, WE CANNOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THIS TYPE OF RECKLESS BEHAVIOR AND MUST NOT BE TOLERATED.
    The Dream Act is not a crucial law if aliens want to join the military --right now? They don't need the Dream Act to enter the military? Just get them to the recruiting center. The Liberals have intentional failed to offer this message in such far left-oriented newspapers as the Huffington Post, New York Time, los Angeles Times and the Washington Post.
    Another provision that misleads the public is the fact that illegal aliens can join the military in this time of conflict and collect as a guarantee a path to citizenship at a later date. Under the provisions of the current law (10 USC § 504), the Secretary of Defense can authorize the enlistment of illegal aliens. Once enlisted in the U.S. Armed Forces, under 8 USC § 1440, these illegal aliens can become naturalized citizens through expedited processing, often obtaining U.S. citizenship in six months.

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  23. These corrupted legislators will not even tell you the real costs, for settling instant-citizenship infants (Anchor Babies?) Here is the last chance to harass your Senator or Representative by phoning (202)224-3121. Challenge them to stop the Left wing zealots for planting another Amnesty in America called the DREAM ACT. HOW CAN SENATOR HARRY REID AND HIS HIERARCHY OF LIBERAL CRONIES, PUSH PASSAGE OF THE DREAM ACT WHEN 15 TO 22 MILLION AMERICANS ARE GROVELING FOR A JOB? IN MOST CASES ANY JOB TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES?

    Go to www.numbersusa.com website for in-depth information on illegal immigration and what you can do to stand for our sovereignty and citizen rights? The Tea Party is adamant that no new laws must--NOT--find passage until the real DOUBLE border fence is secure. That no new visas should be implemented until the Guest Worker fraud is extinguished, which businesses owners and their lawyers undertake annually. The Tea Party will blacklist any politician, including those lawmakers they backed, if they cater to illegal immigration and the DREAM ACT--as is?

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  24. Here is the full text of the Dream Act (S. 3827: Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2010:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-3827

    READ the facts about the Dream Act and not the propaganda from Senator Harry Reid's Liberal party leadership that must--END? Sen. Jeff Sessions put out the following release last week on the DREAM Act, that it’s an incremental illegal-alien amnesty bill. IT IS A VERY CAREFULLY PLANNED AMNESTY, FULL OF RHETORIC? BUT EVERY TAXPAYER NEEDS TO READ THE FULL TEXT OF THE WHITE PAPER. Remember your taxes are certain to accelerate upwards, to pay for all these indecent provisions. American citizens are already having money extorted from them to pay for the babies of illegal aliens born here, the education of illegal alien children, the health care for all family members and crammed prisons and jails for convicted illegal alien felons. All needs to be paid for by your taxes? High on the list of Negatives is that the students will be able to sponsor immediate family members under the chain migration law.

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  25. I believe the dream act should PASS. Young children should not be struggling for their lives any longer. It will help the nation greatly.

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  26. Myth: The DREAM Act uses taxpayer dollars for scholarships and grants to undocumented students.

    Fact: The DREAM Act states that undocumented youth adjusting to lawful permanent resident status are only eligible for federal student loans (which must be paid back), and federal work-study programs, where they must work for any benefit they receive. They are not eligible for federal grants, such as Pell Grants.

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  27. Myth: The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to pay cheaper tuition than citizens.

    Fact: The DREAM Act gives states the option to offer in-state tuition to students registered under DREAM, but it does NOT guarantee cheaper tuition. At most, the DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access the same benefits as their peers. The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access in-state tuition, but only if they would otherwise qualify for such tuition, and if state law permits undocumented students to receive in-state tuition.

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  28. The Dream Act should NOT pass. The Dream Act leads to reunification. The parents knew that entering the country illegally was wrong so now the Sins of the Father are visited upon the Children.

    All illegal aliens should return to their country of origin and if they were born here illegally they should go to the homeland of their parents and APPLY to come here Legally

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  29. Myth: The DREAM Act gives undocumented students and their families access to public benefits.

    Fact: DREAM Act students receive no special benefits and are subject to the same public benefits eligibility requirements as other legal immigrants. This means that DREAM Act students and families are NOT eligible for Supplemental Security Income, food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid (other than emergency care), and numerous other federal benefit programs. In general, a person must be here as a lawful permanent resident for five years before they receive non-emergency federal assistance.

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  30. Myth: The DREAM Act will spur more illegal immigration because it rewards undocumented youth.

    Fact: Programs like the DREAM Act, which have clear cut-off dates, offer no incentives for more illegal immigration. In order to qualify for the DREAM Act, a student must have entered the United States before the age of 16 and have lived in the U.S. for at least five years before the date of enactment. Economic conditions have far more impact on illegal immigration than specific pieces of legislation.

    Myth: The DREAM Act isn’t just for students, but will benefit people of all ages.

    Fact: Because the U.S. has failed to address the question of illegal immigration for more than a decade, an entire generation of young people’s skills and contributions could easily be lost. The young people who inspired the DREAM Act ten years ago may now be in their early 30s and should be eligible to benefit when it becomes law. Consequently, the DREAM Act encourages immigrants 35 or younger to attend college or join the military, but they must still have entered the U.S. before they were 16 AND have been here for five years immediately preceding the date of enactment.

    Myth: The DREAM Act legalizes criminals and gang members and lets people who have already been ordered deported avoid the law.

    Fact: Immigrants convicted of serious crimes are ineligible for DREAM Act status; the DREAM Act excludes from eligibility most immigrants applying for benefits who have been under an order of deportation. Specifically, the DREAM Act states that an applicant may not have already been ordered deported unless they received the order before they were 16 years old.

    Myth: The DREAM Act lets students cut in line in front of other lawful immigrants.

    Fact: DREAM Act students do not compete for visas with other applicants for legal permanent residence. Instead, DREAM Act creates a separate program for students that requires them to earn legal permanent residence by attending college or serving in the military for two years while in a temporary legal status. DREAM will not affect the number of visas available or the time it takes to get a visa for those entering through traditional legal immigration.

    Myth: The DREAM Act would diminish opportunities for U.S.-citizen students.

    Fact: According to the National Immigration Law Center:

    Most undocumented students are likely to have zero impact on admission rates of native born students: Since 2001, 10 states have made it easier for undocumented state residents to attend college by offering in-state tuition to those that qualify. A significant portion of the students that took advantage of this opportunity have done so in community colleges, which have open enrollment. The small numbers of students who will attend 4-year universities are not significant enough to affect the opportunities of others.

    Institutions charged with education of our youth overwhelmingly support the bill. Well-established education organizations like the American Association of Community Colleges, American Association of State Colleges and Universities, National Educators Association, the College Board, and prominent university presidents/chancellors support the DREAM Act.

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  31. Myth: The DREAM Act will spur more illegal immigration because it rewards undocumented youth.

    Fact: Programs like the DREAM Act, which have clear cut-off dates, offer no incentives for more illegal immigration. In order to qualify for the DREAM Act, a student must have entered the United States before the age of 16 and have lived in the U.S. for at least five years before the date of enactment. Economic conditions have far more impact on illegal immigration than specific pieces of legislation.

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  32. Myth: The DREAM Act isn’t just for students, but will benefit people of all ages.

    Fact: Because the U.S. has failed to address the question of illegal immigration for more than a decade, an entire generation of young people’s skills and contributions could easily be lost. The young people who inspired the DREAM Act ten years ago may now be in their early 30s and should be eligible to benefit when it becomes law. Consequently, the DREAM Act encourages immigrants 35 or younger to attend college or join the military, but they must still have entered the U.S. before they were 16 AND have been here for five years immediately preceding the date of enactment.

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  33. First off let me state that the HATERS are the ones who sit in front of their computers or tv and are extremely overweight with only complaints about what should be and how it will be. They are too dreamers, dreamers who someday when life gets easy they could stand up from their fat and lift a finger. They are the scums of a potentionally powerful nation "honestly" why so much hate towards the ones who will be the future of this nation after all everyone does agree that this nation is built on imigrants.

    Now for the main argument, this bill is great for imigrant students who do something with their lives. Ex. Raise a family, create a bussiness or something possitive than those who were born here. for those who say negative things about this are again nothing to this economy they are the problem and then again have nothing to go on except bais statistics and a feble mind. But then again this is the land of the free and I would like someone to think otherwise. Good bill I hope it passes.

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  34. The Dream Act is NOT Amnesty for illegals!!.

    The Dream Act will only benefit undocumented students who have graduated high school, are in good standing with no criminal record, were brought to the U.S. before they turned 16 years old, and have resided within the U.S. for five years or more. It holds a cut off age of 35 and thus will not allow for mass immigration, it is a one time deal for the ones who are already here.

    As far as chain immigration, The Dream Act will NOT allow for family sponsorship!! These kids will not be able to sponsor family members for legal status, as many who oppose this bill claim. No Amnesty here people, this bill is giving a few selected qualified young men and women an opportunity to earn the right to be called Americans.

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  35. The Dream Act IS Amnesty for illegals!!.

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  37. If the illegal students want legal status, they should accept the following ...

    1, Wait in line behind those who have already applied for green cards legally.

    2, Pay back all the costs they spent taxpayers' money, such as, K12 public school and college costs.

    3, Sign a waiver to waive their rights to apply for green cards for their illegal parents.

    4, They can apply for legal status, after their illegal parents leave from the U.S.

    5, Join at least two year military services if they want to apply for green cards for their illegal parents.

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  38. to jim, are you serious? take more rights away from them and take their family away from them, ok please don't get into politics you'll mess up every human being

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  39. Its not amnesty. No one is handing out citizenship. Its a way to EARN it. These people deserve it anyway. They're not threats. How dumb are we to deport STUDENTS? Pass the dream act.

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  40. I guess the author of this blog post believes more in censorship than the 1st Amendment. It's one-sided people like you that remove the democracy in a society of people. If you don't people to post their opinions, don't create sites for them to post.

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  41. For those that are willing, there is a petition online that will be directed to the Governors of all 50 states, for the citizens of this country to assist in the detention and deportation of all Illegal Aliens present in our country.

    Please read the petition, sign it if you wish, but most importantly, please copy the URL and email it to everyone on your contacts list.

    Once the petition has been active for at least 3 months, all of the names of the people from your respective state will be forwarded to the Governor of your state.

    The action in the petition would be valid for only 2 years.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petition/40860.html

    Please remember, the Republicans have taken over the House of Representatives and have promised the enforcement of our current immigration laws.

    What's most important about signing a petition such as this, is the fact that even if some of the ILLEGALS are not deported, they will be documented in the computer system as being here ILLEGALLY, meaning that they cannot participate in ANY amnesty program that could become available.

    I am just as fed up with people breaking the law just by entering this country, and I am willing to pay the 1/4% sales-tax increase to assist in removing the very problems that drain our resources.

    We cannot depend on the Kenyan-born Village Idiot, who now knows the meaning of the word "Trillion", to stop spending our tax dollars in ways that do not help our society. We, as a nation, should be willing to tell our local governments that we are willing to help with the costs, so long as the money is used for this one specific reason.

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  42. I'm a U.S Citizen and i support the Dream Act because of a bigger picture. The next generation will have trouble competing in the global market. The highest rank in education we have is 12th place and i think that's in Reading, 25th in Math and 26th in Science. We need more tax payers for the debt, soldiers for the military etc...Wouldnt you want the cure for cancer, HIV/Aids to come from an American Citizen???....All you have to do is READ THE BILL..it's not AMNESTY because the whole process to become a Citizen is about 9 years maybe more, The students do not get in-state tuition, no financial aid only loans that have interest and their family members DO NOT qualify for the DREAM ACT. Even if the student tries to sponsor the family member the process in total will take over 18 years...The DREAM ACT just makes sense...

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  43. I support the Dream Act. The idea of helping these young innocent kids a great idea. Maybe the bill should be tweaked a bit, but overall I hope it passes.

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  44. it will not pass - Americans are sick of the whole 'needy south of the border' thing being exploited to the tune of their wallets and lives.
    Dream Act will not happen.

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  45. Support the DREAM ACT. It is the moral thing to do. Stop partisan politics and get something done rather than continuing to delay. I have a young man who helps me out who was brought to the US as a child after both parents died. He speaks English and barely speaks Spanish. America is the country he knows. He has no relatives in Mexico and nowhere to go if he did return. He is registered for college next year and I will pay his tuition as he is not elgible for loans etc. He is a good kid who deserves a future. Support the DREAM ACT and call your Senators today!!!

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